mirrored file at http://SaturnianCosmology.Org/ For complete access to all the files of this collection see http://SaturnianCosmology.org/search.php ========================================================== THOTH A Catastrophics Newsletter VOL IV, No 9 May 31, 2000 EDITOR: Amy Acheson PUBLISHER: Michael Armstrong LIST MANAGER: Brian Stewart CONTENTS I DON'T BELIEVE THIS! . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . .by Mel Acheson THUNDERBOLTS OF THE GODS: an intro . . . . by Dave Talbott PARADIGM PORTRAITS IV: COSMIC JETS. . . by Amy Acheson IO'S WANDERING PLUMES . . . . . . . . . . . . . . .by Wal Thornhill So NEAR, yet so far from UNDERSTANDING . . by Wal Thornhill >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>-----<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<< I DON'T BELIEVE THIS! By Mel Acheson How can I believe something as outrageous as the Electric Saturn Super Model? That shish kebab of overcharged planets goes against everything I thought I knew. It contradicts the millions of years of gradual development that produced the array of species and the stack of rock layers I discovered in grade-school textbooks. It violates the laws of motion and of gravity I was taught in high school. It flouts the differential equations describing the real world I learned in college. How can I believe an idea that's so certainly absurd? The short answer is: I don't. Beyond that, I have to explain something about belief. The word is commonly used in two opposite ways: In one way, it indicates uncertainty, provisionality, guessing on the basis of inadequate information ("I believe the plane will arrive on time"). In the second way, it indicates a deliberate certainty, the acceptance of an idea regardless of information ("I believe in God, the Father, Almighty ..."). The second way is an act of will that rejects doubt. But the first way can also be viewed as an act of will, an act that embraces doubt. In what follows, I'll use 'belief' only in the second sense. Back in the '60s I became fascinated with such questions as "What is knowing?" and "How do I know what I think I know?" (I was warned, apparently correctly, that dabbling in philosophy would ruin me as a scientist.) The usual context of discussions of these questions was an expectation of, even a craving for, certainty. Kierkegaard insisted on a "leap of faith". Wittgenstein made a desperate commitment to "somewhere I must begin with not doubting". The founding elements of knowledge, those fundamentals the certainty of which justifies all subsequent knowledge, were matters of belief. Science and religion were thus anchored to the same foundation. But I gravitated to Camus: In an absurd world, he asked, is it possible to live without hope? In The Rebel, he reviewed the intellectual climate of the age: the proposals and policies certain to transform men into supermen or gods or proletarian heroes, which instead transformed men into murderers. "Revolution without honor ... preferring an abstract concept of man to a man of flesh and blood ... raises up the grimacing cohorts of petty rebels, embryo slaves all of them, who end by offering themselves for sale .... It is no longer either revolution or rebellion but rancor, malice, and tyranny." He concluded that to be men we must refuse to be gods. We must will ourselves to be human. Insofar as belief is an act of will, so is refusing to believe. The craving for certainty begins by assembling incorrigible elements into a foundation. The edifice of knowledge can then be erected on that certain base. But there are no incorrigible elements. We have only bits and pieces of information. Most of the information we need (to be certain of a theory) is beyond the capacity of our five senses--even with technological enhancements- -to sense it. And most of what we could be able to sense is too difficult or too costly to obtain. Data is not given but must be sought out, extracted, refined. Theories are based on the small quantities of information that lie readily at hand and that appear familiar in the light of past experience. Furthermore, we don't sense information directly: Our senses generate metaphors of pieces of the objective world, and those metaphors and pieces push and pull on each other. Peter Bernstein writes (in _Against the Gods: The Remarkable Story of Risk_): "And the bother is that we never have all the information we would like. Nature has established patterns, but only for the most part. Theory, which abstracts from nature, is kinder: We either have the information we need or else we have no need for information." Considering the uncertainties inherent in information, it's tempting to retreat to theory, to leap to a belief, to seize certainty with an act of will. But this returns us to Camus and to "preferring an abstract concept ... [to] flesh and blood". Possession of certainty may justify knowledge, but it also justifies disdain for other visions. Ultimately, it justifies "rancor, malice, and tyranny" and clamors for the burning of books and heretics. To be human, we must refuse to be gods. The refusal of certainty is the abandonment of the foundation for knowledge. It's the abandonment of the metaphor of building and of incorrigible elements. It's to begin instead with the uncertain, inchoate, and dynamic whole of knowledge and to hold everything open to criticism. "For criticism only appears as an _alternative_ to justification after the two notions are separated." W.W. Bartley elaborates on this in "Theories of Rationality" in _Evolutionary Epistemology_: "This approach may produce in one who is unaccustomed to it an uncomfortable feeling of floating, of having no firm foundation. That would be appropriate: for it is floating; it _is_ doing without a foundation." Bernstein again: "Under conditions of uncertainty, the choice is not between rejecting a hypothesis and accepting it, but between reject and not-reject. You can decide that the probability that you are wrong is so small that you should not reject the hypothesis. You can decide that the probability that you are wrong is so large that you _should_ reject the hypothesis. But with any probability short of zero that you are wrong--certainty rather than uncertainty--you cannot _accept_ a hypothesis." This is similar to the situation in which juries deliberate. Their verdicts are limited to 'guilty' or 'not guilty'. Innocence is a matter beyond the ability of deliberation to determine. And in science, this deliberation convicts currently accepted theories as being fundamentally religious and not scientific. For were they truly scientific they would be 'currently-not-rejected' theories. Bernstein notes that "in a dynamic world, there is no single answer under conditions of uncertainty. The mathematician A.F.M. Smith has summed it up well: 'Any approach to scientific inference which seeks to legitimize _an_ answer in response to complex uncertainty is, for me, a totalitarian parody of a would- be rational learning process.'" What my opening question is really asking is: How can I take the Electric Saturn Super Model seriously? Why waste time on something that's clearly impossible? I take it seriously precisely _because_ I don't believe it--and because, for the same reasons, I don't believe currently accepted theories. One earmark of that "totalitarian parody" into which modern science has degenerated is the use of that word 'impossible': To be certain that the possibility is zero, you must be certain that another theory is 100%. Lacking that information, the certainty can only be gained by willing it, by believing it, by refusing to take anything else seriously. If you live your life only at the extremes of possibility, at 0% or 100%, you effectively rule out learning anything more. For me, one of the greatest joys of being human is learning. I would not be happy as a god. Mel Acheson thoth at whidbey.com *************************************************** THUNDERBOLTS OF THE GODS By Dave Talbott [Ed. note: This article is taken from the introduction to the book collaboration in progress by Dave Talbott and Wal Thornhill.] "It is the thunderbolt that steers the universe!" These are the words of the Greek philosopher Heraclitus, living in the sixth and fifth centuries B.C. To our ears today, the words are quite meaningless and easy to dismiss along with a thousand other "superstitions" of the ancient world. But in truth they point to an archaic teaching which, were it comprehended in our time, would overturn modern cosmology and transform our understanding of the human past. Cross-cultural analysis will show that the mythic thunderbolt held a most prominent place in the imagination of all early civilizations. But this awesome weapon of the gods is only indirectly connected to the "lightning" familiar to us today. Typically, the ancient stories describe the gods hurling their weapon not against humanity, but against each other, thereby throwing the heavens into turmoil. Universally, the thunderbolt is a symbol of cosmic upheaval - events powerful enough to re- arrange the heavens and change the course of human history. That, at least, is the way the ancient poets and historians remember it. The flaming weapon is most familiar to us in the images of the Greek Zeus (Jupiter), who hurls his bolt across the sky. It is this fiery weapon which proves decisive in the god's confrontations with such chaos powers as the dragon Typhon or the rebel Enceladus. The god Yahweh, in Hebrew accounts, brandishes his lightning bolt against Rahab or Leviathan, the dragon of the deep, as the whole world trembles. Similarly, it is with lighting that the Babylonian Marduk blasts the dragon Tiamat, whose attack threatened to destroy creation. As we trace such images back to their earliest sources, we find that the feared thunderbolt really has nothing to do with local storms or regional events. When the world falls out of control, a sovereign god employs the weapon on behalf of "order" or renewal of the world after devastating catastrophe. When we examine the accounts systematically and in their specific details we see how clearly they exclude the popular interpretations given in our own time. As the ancient chroniclers tell it, even the gods themselves are "scarred" or "wounded" by blasts of lightning. Lightning streaks along the world axis, presenting the form of a luminous pillar in the sky. Repeatedly, we find popular warrior-gods taking the form of the lightning-weapon, while numerous mother goddesses are "impregnated" by the same fiery bolt. Or the lightning-weapon is hurled as a spiraling sphere trailing fire. Among numerous ancient cultures we find thunderbolts appearing as symmetrically arranged "arrows" launched toward the four quarters of the heavens, represented pictographically by a cross of light. Everything about the mythic lightning bolt is enigmatic, as if utterly divorced from natural experience. And yet the symbolism consistently points back to archetypal forms and events. Why was lightning, in the first astronomies, wielded by gods who are identified as planets? Why was the fiery bolt itself often presented with a twisted or corkscrew form? And how do we account for the famous "sulfurous stench" said to accompany the lightning- stroke? Or the universal claim that meteorites or stones ("thunderstones") fell with the lightning of the gods? A modern reader is easily desensitized to such "make believe." Were not all early races the victims of ignorance and wild imagination? All too frequently we grow so accustomed to the fantastic aspects of their accounts that we lose interest in the details. Or worse, we fail to notice the recurring patterns, the most vital keys to discovery. The thunderbolt will illustrate the extent of this dilemma while carrying us well beyond the particular symbol. As we intend to demonstrate, the patterns of ancient memory are simply too powerful, too detailed, and too consistent to be explained in the usual way. UNSTABLE SOLAR SYSTEM Much of the emphasis of this book will be on the dynamic and unpredictable roles of planets and moons, when they moved through highly active electrical fields. Planetary motions observed today are not a reliable guide to solar system history. But it seems that over many centuries observational science came increasingly under the spell of a predictable and uneventful planetary arrangement, and now certain questions are rarely if ever asked. How stable is the solar system? Have the planets always moved on their present courses? For many years, a principle called uniformitarianism has ruled the sciences. The principle says that evolutionary processes occurring in the past can be deduced from processes observed now. It is assumed, for example, that by noting uniform natural processes today, an observer can deduce how long it took the crust of the earth to shift and mountains to rise, for wind and water erosion to occur, and for lava flows and regional floods to sculpt the Earth's unique surface features. With the arrival of the space age, the same principles were applied to the natural events shaping the surfaces of planets and moons. As our probes sent back vivid images of planetary surfaces and the surfaces of the remote moons of Jupiter and Saturn, geologists drew primarily on a count of craters to "date" the surfaces. They simply projected theoretical impact rates backwards across great spans of time, and the results were the presumed "dates" for different surfaces, typically ranging from millions to billions of years. Such suppositions as these have guided data analyses throughout the space age. But are these suppositions really justified? Suffice it to say, if their assumption of uniformity is incorrect, planetary scientists have directed many billions of dollars toward asking the wrong questions. >From the nineteenth century onward, the uniformity principle remained unchallenged. Undoubtedly that underlying supposition constrained the thinking of historians as they began to explore the world of our early ancestors and to offer translations of previously unknown ancient texts. Antiquarians--ethnologists, archaeologists, and students of the archaic languages--assumed without question that the celestial forms celebrated in the great "sky religions" answer to the Sun and Moon and other bodies as they appear in our sky today. But what would happen to our understanding of the myth-making age if we set this supposition aside just long enough to ask the question: What were the sky-worshippers seeing in the heavens when they invoked the prodigious forms of the gods? And what did they mean by the gods' awe-inspiring weapons of fire and stone? IMMANUEL VELIKOVSKY We would be remiss if we failed to make clear that both authors of this volume were independently inspired by the work of Immanuel Velikovsky, one of the most innovative and controversial theorists of the 20th century. In 1950, Velikovsky's bestseller, Worlds in Collision, presented evidence for global catastrophes in historical times. He wrote that only a few thousand years ago planets moved on erratic courses and more than once the Earth itself was disturbed by errant planets. These upheavals, according to Velikovsky, were memorialized around the world in myth, art, ritual, language, and architecture. Three principles were paramount in Velikovsky's hypothesis: 1. Unstable motions and near-collisions of planets have produced large-scale terrestrial catastrophes on the earth. 2. Ancient cultures preserved massive records of these catastrophes. 3. Taken as a whole, historical records suggest a vital role of electricity: In catastrophic episodes, great bolts of lightning passed between planets. Velikovsky's approach was interdisciplinary. He used the insights of a professional psychoanalyst and the methods of a trained historian to investigate the astronomical, mythical, and religious traditions of diverse cultures. He discerned deeply rooted themes which others had failed to see. These cultural records told the story of traumatic events, apparently experienced on a global scale. Using a comparative method, he pieced together a coherent story. In support of his reconstruction he found physical evidence from geology, paleontology, and archeology. He also formulated a series of predictions-consistent with his hypothesis, but unexpected by previous theories. He predicted that the planet Jupiter would emit radio signals; that the planet Venus would be much hotter than astronomers expected; and that craters on the moon would reveal remanent magnetism and radioactive hot spots. Velikovsky's ability to anticipate scientific discovery produced a surprising statement from the renowned geologist Harry Hess (in an open letter to Velikovsky in 1963): "Some of these predictions were said to be impossible when you made them. All of them were predicted long before proof that they were correct came to hand. Conversely I do not know of any specific prediction you made that has since been proven to be false. I suspect the merit lies in that you have a good basic background in the natural sciences and you are quite uninhibited by the prejudices and probability taboos which confine the thinking of most of us." For ourselves, the authors of this work believe that Velikovsky was incorrect on many details of his reconstruction. But his place among the great pioneers of science will be secure if he was merely correct on the underlying tenets of his work: an unstable solar system in geologically recent times; close encounters of planets marked by interplanetary electrical discharges; catastrophic disturbances of the Earth; and human witnesses to these events; all with the most profound effects on human imagination and on the collective activity of early civilizations. In the 50 years since Worlds in Collision was published, the viewpoint of orthodox science has changed dramatically, leading some to say that the only mistake Velikovsky made was presenting his theory at the wrong historical time. Over the intervening decades various innovators began to investigate catastrophic possibilities previously ignored. One of the milestones in this trend was the hypothesis of Leo and Walter Alvarez, claiming dinosaur extinction by asteroidal impact. While the initial response of official science was ridicule, over time the hypothesis began to gain general acceptance within the scientific community. Soon thereafter, the respected biologist Stephen Jay Gould acknowledged the occasional catastrophe in a theory of "punctuated equilibrium." And the British astronomers Victor Clube and William Napier opened the door even further by postulating cometary or asteroidal disasters so recent as to have inspired vivid human stories (myths) of these events. Then several other astronomers, astrophysicists, and geologists added support to such speculations. Among these theorists are the eminent astronomers Fred Hoyle and Tom Van Flandern. According to the latter theorist, an "exploding planet" devastated the surfaces of Mars and other bodies in the solar system, perhaps leaving its scars on human imagination as well. And now, a half century after Worlds in Collision, a few well- accredited catastrophists, including dendrochronologist Mike Baillie, are beginning to admit a debt to Velikovsky, usually with the disclaimer that of course he was wrong about unstable planets being involved in these events. This general assessment of Velikovsky is shared openly by the popular science and science fiction writer, Jerry Pournelle, on his website : "Taken as a whole, Velikovsky's specific hypotheses are, in my judgment, quite beyond belief. On the other hand, his general hypothesis, that there were astronomical terrors in the Bronze Age and memories of them have come down to us in myths and legends, has always seemed to me to be well worth taking seriously and is in fact very probably true." We want to make it clear at the outset that the authors of this upcoming book stand with Velikovsky--if not on all the details of his reconstruction, then certainly on the general principles. When it comes to solar system stability we believe that Velikovsky was fundamentally correct, though it is certainly understandable that many intelligent writers find the errant planets of Worlds in Collision "quite beyond belief." Indeed, belief itself may be the greatest obstacle to objective investigation on this subject, given the inertia of prior assumptions. The very idea that wandering planets could quickly settle into their present highly uniform and predictable orbits is simply too much to countenance under accepted principles of Newtonian gravity and energy conservation. But in fact, the issue can be resolved dispassionately. The belief in uniform planetary motions over millions of years, though understandable, is just a belief. Placed within a wider field of evidence--a field ranging across the global testimony of ancient cultures and into a vast library of space age data--the very foundations of the belief will collapse. Newton developed the concept of gravitation in 1666, eight decades before Franklin flew his kite and more than two centuries before Maxwell wrote his famous equations. Astronomy developed in the gaslight era before electricity was known. In this volume we intend to show that something is missing from the standard treatments of planetary history and celestial dynamics. That missing component is electricity. Dave Talbott ***************************************************** PARADIGM PORTRAITS IV: COSMIC JETS By Amy Acheson This webpage from Merlin was part of my research for the videotaping session in Portland. The website includes wonderful pictures, plus the comments listed below. How long will they say things like 'Jets contain a mixture of charged particles and magnetic fields,' before they realize that they are describing electrical currents in space? Black holes are not needed here. Plasma can do the job better. ~Amy http://www.jb.man.ac.uk/merlin/about/layman/jet.html >From the website: How this energy is generated, and how it is transported, is a key problem in astrophysics, but most theorists agree that only a massive black hole can provide enough energy to power these objects. In simple terms, a black hole is a region of space in which the gravitational pull is so strong that not even light can escape from it. To power a quasar, a black hole would need to contain a mass a billion times that of the Sun. Material falling into the hole is heated to extremely high temperatures, emitting x-rays that can be detected by telescopes on board satellites. This release of gravitational energy can be more than ten times as efficient as nuclear fusion, the process that powers the Sun and the hydrogen bomb. By means not yet understood, some of this energy escapes from the nucleus along the jets and energizes the lobes. Jets contain a mixture of charged particles and magnetic fields, which together produce powerful radio emission ideally suited for study with MERLIN. The physics is undoubtedly complex, and the continuing study of radio jets will be a major task for MERLIN in the 1990s. PARADIGM PORTRAITS By Amy Acheson Amy Acheson ****************************************************** IO'S WANDERING PLUMES By Wal Thornhill Here is a very interesting report from NASA that shows how dismally earthly models fail when applied to Io's surface. Back on the 29th October last year I wrote on my web-site about the closest ever picture of Io: "As expected in an Electric Universe, chains of circular craters show that an electric discharge has moved across the surface of Io. Such crater chains are characteristically found on cathode surfaces as the arc jumps from the neat, circular crater it has just burnt to the nearest high point - often the rim of the same crater." This statement was repeated in another item about the Prometheus "volcano" on 7th November. The "migrating plumes" of this report are the moving cathode jets. They are not seen on Earth. As for determining the internal chemistry of Io from the surface sulfur deposits, this is another blind alley entered from the assumption that what are being looked at are volcanoes. The sulfur is being created at the point where the arc impinges on the surface. Each sulfur atom is formed by "fritting" two atoms of oxygen in the powerful electric field of the arc. The most likely source of oxygen is water ice, found also on the other Galilean satellites of Jupiter, particularly Europa. And it is on Europa that reddish coloration is found alongside the largest furrows (they are not cracks in the ice). None of the usual geological principles are much use in interpreting the features seen on Jupiter's moons. For that matter, it remains to be seen whether they apply on Earth. "Seeing Red" seems a popular headline these days!? Wal Thornhill __________________________________________________ FOR IMMEDIATE RELEASE May 18, 2000 WANDERING PLUMES, SEEING RED, AND SLIP-SLIDING AWAY ON IO Detailed analysis of Jupiter's moon Io reveals a colorful, active world full of surprises, according to five reports published in the May 19 issue of Science, and based on new results from NASA's Galileo spacecraft and Hubble Space Telescope. The reports describe giant, erupting plumes migrating with lava flows, red and green deposits that change as unstable sulfur compounds condense from huge plumes, and mountains that may split and slide sideways for hundreds of kilometers, or miles. Galileo observations of Prometheus reveal a volcanic field similar to Hawaii's volcanoes, but more active and much larger. Prometheus features an 80-kilometer (50-mile) tall plume of gas and particles erupting from near the end of the lava flows, like where Hawaiian flows enter the ocean. This is Io's most consistently active plume. Its size and shape have remained constant since at least 1979, but the plume location wandered about 85 kilometers (53 miles) to the west between 1979 and 1996. "The main vent of the volcano didn't move, but the plume did," said Dr. Rosaly Lopes-Gautier of NASA's Jet Propulsion Laboratory, Pasadena, Calif., lead author of one of the reports. "This type of behavior has never been seen on Earth," said Dr. Susan Kieffer of Kieffer Science Consulting, Inc., Ontario, Canada, lead author of a Science report. Kieffer and her colleagues suggest that the Prometheus plume is fed when a "snowfield" of sulfur dioxide and/or sulfur vaporizes under the lava flow and material erupts through a rootless conduit in the flow. Scientists had speculated that bright red material on Io came from unstable forms of sulfur condensing from sulfur gas. By combining Galileo and Hubble Space Telescope results, scientists have learned more about the role of sulfur in Io's volcanoes. While Galileo carried out the first of three recent Io flybys in October 1999, Hubble scanned Io with its ultraviolet spectrograph to measure the composition of gases escaping from volcanoes. Hubble detected a surprise -- a 350-kilometer (220-mile) high cloud of gaseous sulfur in the plume ejected by the volcano Pele. The sulfur gas is a specific type, with sulfur atoms joined in pairs, that had never before been seen on Io; it is stable only at the very high temperatures found in the throats of Io's volcanoes. When these molecules fall onto Io's frigid surface (about -160 Celsius or -250 Fahrenheit) away from the volcanoes, they probably recombine into larger molecules with three or four sulfur atoms. The latter types of sulfur are red, so the Hubble results explain the 1,200-kilometer (750-mile) wide, red debris ring around Pele. "These Hubble findings should help scientists understand the chemistry of Io's interior," said Dr. John Spencer of Lowell Observatory, Flagstaff, Ariz., lead author of two of the Science papers. Galileo has found many other smaller, red patches near Io's active volcanoes, where this sulfur conversion process probably also occurs. The red deposits are found near calderas or shield volcanoes where lava first reaches the surface, often distant from plumes like Prometheus where lava flows apparently vaporize surface materials. The composition of bright green materials on Io has been puzzling. In some places, it appears that when red material is deposited onto fresh lava flows, especially on caldera floors, it transforms into green material. It is possible that the surfaces are still warm, which accelerates the transformation of the red types of sulfur and the sublimation of sulfur dioxide. Eventually both red and green materials acquire the pale yellow color that is characteristic of ordinary yellow sulfur, made of rings of eight sulfur atoms. Although Io is the most volcanically active body in the solar system, the mountains (up to 16 kilometers or 10 miles high) are not volcanoes. They have no volcanic vents or flows; instead, they appear to be giant tilted blocks of crust. Giant depressions on Io are thought to be calderas formed by collapse over empty magma chambers. Unlike Earth's calderas, many Io depressions have very straight margins, sharp corners, and are located next to mountains. In new images of the Hi'iaka Patera depression and adjacent mountains, it looks as though two mountain blocks have split and slid apart by 145 kilometers (90 miles), forming a pull- apart basin like California's Death Valley or Salton Sea. This is surprising because such large-scale lateral movements on Earth are caused by plate tectonics, but there are no indications of a similar process on Io. "We consider it more likely that lateral movements may be driven by deep 'mantle plumes' of rising hot rock masses within Io," said Dr. Alfred McEwen of the University of Arizona, Tucson, lead author of one of the papers. New images are available at http://galileo.jpl.nasa.gov . ***************************************************** So NEAR, yet so far from UNDERSTANDING By Wal Thornhill On Valentine's Day, 2000, the Near Earth Asteroid Rendezvous (NEAR) spacecraft [went] into orbit around asteroid 433 Eros. It will be the first spacecraft to orbit an asteroid. NEAR will examine the odd-shaped rock, about twice the size of Manhattan Island, for about a year. What do we expect to learn from this adventure? Astronomers agree that it is a chance to examine material left over from the formation of the solar system. Maybe they are pieces of a failed planet? In any case, the usual mantra is invoked: it will help us understand the origin of the solar system. Yet images returned from close fly-bys of asteroids together with Hubble Space Telescope images of the large asteroid, Vesta, have already provided more puzzles than answers. That situation will continue while we remain so far from understanding what we are looking at. The accepted model for the origin of the solar system is a modern "fairy story", in the words of one noted astronomer, requiring ad hoc miracles to occur on every page in order to arrive at a happy ending. The biggest puzzle concerns the amazingly large craters on most of the asteroids. They create severe problems for the impact theory of accretion but astronomers have no alternative mechanism to offer. In an article in Science of 19 December 1997, titled "New View of Asteroids", Erik Asphaug writes: "Last June, NEAR flew by the main belt asteroid 233 Mathilde ... Although the resolution was 50 times as coarse as expected at Eros, the images of Mathilde reveal some surprises and provoke an overdue reevaluation of asteroid geophysics. Mathilde has survived blow after blow with almost farcical impunity, accommodating five great craters with diameters from 3/4 to 5/4 the asteroids mean radius, and none leaving any hint of global devastation. Given that one of these great craters was last to form, preexisting craters ought to bear major scars of seismic degradation, which they do not. Furthermore, asteroids Gaspra and Ida (encountered by Galileo en-route to Jupiter) and the small satellite Phobos all exhibit fracture grooves related to impact, yet fracture grooves are absent on the larger, more battered Mathilde. ..... Consider the third largest asteroid, 4 Vesta, a basalt-covered volcanic body 530 km in diameter that resembles the Moon as much as it does Mathilde or Toutatis. Recent views (36 km per pixel) by the Hubble Space Telescope show a 460 km crater, with raised rim and central peak, covering the entire southern hemisphere - an impact scar surpassing (in relative diameter, but not relative depth) the great chasms of Mathilde. Such craters greatly challenge our understanding of impact processes on asteroids, and on planets in general; evidently, our science must adapt. The study of asteroids is therefore particularly exciting, as small planets provide the fulcrum for the growth of planetology, and for an evolution of geophysics in general. Complex and poorly understood solar system processes - such as impact cratering, accretion and catastrophic disruption, the evolution of volcanic structures, and the triggering of differentiation - may reveal themselves only in a study across the gamut of planets, from the least significant house-sized rock to the most stately terrestrial world. Like clockwork miniatures, asteroids demonstrate primary principles governing planetary evolution at an accessible scale, and thousands await discovery and exploration in near-Earth space alone." In the Electric Universe model, moons, asteroids, comets and meteors are created in electrical discharges between planetary bodies. They are ripped from a planet's surface by electrical forces that easily overwhelm the weak gravitational force. The most well known, albeit unrecognized, arc scar from a recent planetary encounter is seen on Mars in the form of the colossal Valles Marineris canyons. Two million cubic kilometers of rock was excavated by the arc and hurled into space. Some fell back to form the strewn fields of boulders seen by every Mars lander. Some remained in orbit to become the two moons of Mars, Phobos and Deimos. (It is just possible that there is more rubble in orbit about Mars that has been the cause of inexplicable failures of spacecraft on arrival there). The rest formed meteors and a belt of asteroids. This model simply explains why many meteorites contain minerals whose crystals show that they must have formed inside a planet. It explains the origin of the Martian meteorites that are arriving on Earth. And the electric arc mechanism explains simply the strange flash heating of chondrules and other minerals in meteorites. So, if EROS' parent was Mars it may show similarities to Martian rocks. The most compelling evidence of their electrical birth is that all asteroids imaged to date bear scars in the diagnostic form of circular electric arc cratering. One large crater on asteroid Vesta has an untouched central peak. Impacts do not form circular craters with sharp rims - they "splatter". They don't form central peaks. Small secondary craters appear preferentially on the raised rims of earlier craters while the reverse is never seen - which also rules out an impact origin. Crater-filled grooves, seen clearly on Phobos have nothing to do with impact fracturing and are merely small sinuous rilles created by surface lightning streaking toward the main arc. Sinuous rilles are not collapsed lava tubes. Since electrical cratering is a slower process than sudden and does not involve mechanical shock to the same extent, there is little disturbance of pre-existing craters - as seen dramatically on Mathilde. It is worth noting the odd low apparent density of asteroids. In such cases, astronomers introduce another ad-hoc assumption the asteroid is porous, containing up 60% free space. But that raises the question of how, in model, such an object could sustain any sizeable impact without shattering. In contrast, the Electric Universe model expects that a low level of charge on the surface of an object will lower its measured gravitational influence. For example, comets display non-Newtonian behaviour simply because they are visibly discharging and changing their state of electric charge. So a low density may be due to the electrical state of an asteroid rather than any porosity. In that case, the surface minerals will have a higher density, as measured on Earth, than the gravity of the asteroid would lead us to believe. Certainly, the asteroids do not give the appearance of being a "rubble pile". If asteroids maintained their integrity under the intense electrical forces that removed them from a planet they must have considerable mechanical strength. Having been "born" in a cataclysm created by a powerful electric discharge there may be strong remanent magnetism in any susceptible minerals on an asteroid. Strong magnetic remanence has been inferred on the asteroid Gaspra, equaling the Earth's field strength, and it is a distinguishing feature of meteorites. The process of electrical cratering will regions of anomalously strong patterns of magnetism. In addition, nuclear processes are to be expected. So nucleosynthesis, transmutation of elements and the formation of isotopes and radionuclides will have had an effect on the surface of asteroids similar to that seen in meteorites where odd isotopes occur from short-lived heavy parent radio-nuclides and others do not match those found in the solar wind. In order to advance we require much more than that "our science must adapt" or that understanding of these processes will come about from "an evolution of geophysics". It will require nothing less than a revolution in science before understanding is possible. That revolution begins with discarding the fairy tales about the formation of the solar system and returning to the laboratory to study the effects of electric discharges on model planetary surfaces. 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